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Re: No Fap

Postby Valentin d'Arimathie » Mon Dec 19, 2016 3:09 pm

Gentlemen, I just came out of a 30-minute long liquid nitrogen shower, during which I froze my balls to death to make sure I make it to day 90 (I'm at day 89), and I can't think of a better time to give you my three-month's report.

First, I will respond to a question you must all be asking yourselves : 'do you get superpowers by doing Nofap ?'. And the answer is a big YES. I mean, it's crazy what I'm able to do now. I can look at my sister's naked shoulders without jizzing instantly in my pants (but that may be because I now freeze my balls on sundays before the family meals start). And when I talk to members of the opposite sex, no more stuttering and no more looking at my shoes. At day 78, I even was able to maintain eye-contact with a random girl in the street for a good 2-seconds before I ran back to my lair. I mean, that's crazy, right ? I'm still a virgin but, wow, what a journey...

..........
Ok, in all seriousness, I'm really doing a nofap experiment and here is my report.

What I got from Nofap (or what I, at least, attribute to it) :

The Good
- Morning, nocturnal and diurnal woods came back, which can be a problem during your day-to-day interactions with women.
- More time, motivation, energy and less procrastination.
- My ability to remember dreams came back.
- More social agression, charisma, as it was previously pointed out. Social interactions being overall more enjoyable.
- Completely forgot about porn. Porn-acquired tastes fading away.
- Activities like listening to music, eating, etc., became a lot more enjoyable. I even had a gustative orgasm while eating cheese (with tears of pleasure).
- Speaking of tears, I can now cry at will, like a skilled woman, which is weird. But it's a great anti-game tool to have. Can't wait to try it. I've become so easily movable I think I cried more during these three months than in all my life. Music, cinema, literature... If it pushes the right buttons, I cry.

The Bad
- Blue balls for a few days (totally manageable).
- Having to pee excess seminal fluids. This is actually the worst drawback I got from Nofap. Far worse than blueballs.
- Intrusive sexual thoughts I had to cast away regularly. But the thoughts were not centered around acts or bodyparts, and they didn't involve non-irl girls, as it used to ; it was mostly about seducing real girls who popped up on my radar, up to making out. Yes, I now fantasize about just making out (how fucked up is that ?).
- The major drawback being (from a MGTOW perspective) : your brain will push you to get the chemical highs you had during your fapping days through interactions with real women. For example, it makes me flirt automatically when I interact with women I find attractive and, problem is, most of the women I would have perceived as average or even ugly before, now can very easily become attractive to my eyes. Single mother ? Not a problem. Fupa ? Let's just forget about that. Crooked teeth ? That's actually cute ! No right arm ? Well, you just need one arm for handjobs. You are 70 years-old ? Wow, I thought you were only 50.

As a_real_man said :
Even females that you would normally consider fucking ugly will be attractive. It's like (black) magic. When you look at a female, you will not see her, you will see a blurred figure with feminine aura and you will be attracted to it.


It is exactly my experience. You don't see the women you're speaking to. After a few seconds of interaction, it becomes blurry and you don't see them anymore, you project a feminine aura onto their eyes and smiles, and you get turned on. I can now get boners by talking to ugly girls... All they have to do is being somewhat feminine and pleasant.

The main issue being I now give away unintentional IOI's to random girls. Like biting my lips, or looking at third-party girls when in a group while somebody else is talking to me. Luckily, I'm quite handsome, so I don't appear as creepy as someone less blessed would, but still... I think it can damage my reputation if I'm not carefull. For example, the other day, a cashier had a sudden jolt when she gave me my bag of items, for she somehow interpreted or saw that I was turned on (I was, but I had no intention to make it clear). The worse being : I'm, without a doubt, feeding a lot of female egos lately and, what's more, on a daily basis...

I can't imagine the state of vulnerability Nofap put the young bluepilled guys who try it in (is this sentence correct ?). No fap without redpill knowledge is certainly a recipie for disaster, especially if your only or main objective is to get a girlfriend. And even redpilled men should be carefull : if it makes you forget about fupas, it will easily put you back in a purple pill state, in the bargaining phase, where you're looking for good reasons to associate with females, and unicorn clues to rationalise it.

Conclusion

So, in my experience at least, the benefits far outweight the pitfalls. Great self-improvement tool overall but to be used with caution. If you think you might have a problem with porn, just try it for a few weeks and see for yourself.

Edit : grammar.
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Re: No Fap

Postby ZionDweller » Mon Jan 16, 2017 11:23 pm

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Re: No Fap

Postby Notorious GIT » Tue Jan 17, 2017 2:36 am

Currently on about day 8,000 of Yesfap, and here's my report:

The good:

1. I'm better at maths! I figured out all by myself in my head that in 4 months of an average 4 times a day, given the volume of my... um... product... I make about the weight of 4 hefty newborns in jizz!

2. That's right! Less than half the time of a cunt to make one! AND with none of the bitching or two decades of costs!

The bad:

1. NO.

The ugly:

1. Well, they fuckin all are, or we wouldn't be reading this, now, would we?
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Re: No Fap

Postby Valentin d'Arimathie » Mon Feb 06, 2017 11:56 pm

At day 139, I must say it was indeed a trap. If some of you lurkers were inspired by my previous post to try nofap, please don't.

Never have I been so thirsty in my life. It doesn't even compare to when I was a teenager. It has to be x10 more intense than it was at my hormonal peak. Tonight, I became thirsty to the point of tears. Tears of thirstiness... I didn't even know it existed. I just became hot and red, and all there was on my mind was the thirst.

I look at my bedside table and I see Marcus Aurellus' Meditations, left untouched. What did I spend my evening on ? Studying PUA and keeping a journal about the women that are currently on my radar. Fuck that.

GIT, you keep making those jizz babies. Respek.
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Re: No Fap

Postby Schattenmann » Tue Feb 07, 2017 9:44 am

Respect for backing up out of a dead end.

Not draining your balls regularly makes you more vulnerable to biology ie women -this annoys me greatly. I need no other reason to YES FAP.
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Re: No Fap

Postby a_real_man » Fri Feb 17, 2017 11:54 pm

Valentin d'Arimathie wrote:At day 139, I must say it was indeed a trap. If some of you lurkers were inspired by my previous post to try nofap, please don't.

Never have I been so thirsty in my life. It doesn't even compare to when I was a teenager. It has to be x10 more intense than it was at my hormonal peak. Tonight, I became thirsty to the point of tears. Tears of thirstiness... I didn't even know it existed. I just became hot and red, and all there was on my mind was the thirst.

I look at my bedside table and I see Marcus Aurellus' Meditations, left untouched. What did I spend my evening on ? Studying PUA and keeping a journal about the women that are currently on my radar. Fuck that.

GIT, you keep making those jizz babies. Respek.


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Re: No Fap

Postby Valentin d'Arimathie » Wed Mar 22, 2017 6:40 pm

This will be my last report on this subject, let's hope so.

So, 20 days ago I finally ended my Nofap experiment. 170 days of semen retention... (220 if one counts my first streak of 50 days). It went to the point where I got (and still get) surprise boners just by making quick smiles and eye contact with random women (and they don't even have to be stunning). Dick tingles... I'm calling it. I hoped this unfortunate effect would be gone after 10 days, but it didn't. And since I get my 'female fix' mostly through flirting (and watching Lindsey Stirling's videos) I have to regularly cut some interactions short and go hide in some shadows to 'stabilize' myself. I'm sure you heard of brain plasticity ? Well, it seems that I'll stay an insatiable and over-responsive mother fucker for at least quite some time.

Regarding the change in my attractiveness (which the nofappers advertise as a likely 'benefit'), this has been quite weird. I guess I must now be sending some kind of 'sexual vibe' (yeah, you can laugh), like I have to be a giant man-whore or something, cause I never got this level of attention, ever. Problem is, it's coming from everywhere (underage girls as well as grannies ; gays and landwhales included). By the way, and as for everything else, men are way better at communicating their interest (simpler, smoother, more direct but still somewhat subtle ; a shame I'm not gay!). Another problem : the better looking the woman, the less effort she'll do, the less obvious she'll be, the less attention she'll give. This means I get touched and harassed by the most confident 4s-6s (some will just be terrified and lost for words), while the 8+ will just come close or in front of me and do NOTHING, except maybe some quick eye contact, so I can give them attention.

I won't bore you with too much details but I got one very funny nuclear bomb IOI. A post-wall unknown woman, who had been giving me signals (smiles, gazes, lip biting, etc.) for months when we passed each other in the street, got so frustrated by my unresponsiveness (her hamster probably spun it to 'cluelessness', rather than 'disinterest') that one day, when she passed by me in the street, she moaned loudly as if she were having sex. Loud sex moans... in a crowded street... A saturday at 4 p.m. Two dozen people heard it ; almost everyone stopped walking and some even commented. I guess she's 'brave' (or crazy) enough to pull this kind of stuff, but she won't muster the courage to say 'Hi' to me first. I saw her today and as soon as she saw me she panicked, started going in a side street, then came back to pass in front of me and turned around like a headless chicken. She just won't initiate anything verbal, ever.

NF puts you back in the game whether you like it or not.

Now to something more serious. I said somewhere else that « woman discovers herself through debauchery, man through abstinence » (yes, I'm quite proud of this La Rochefoucauld-like maxim). While woman will quite surely discovers that she's a whore through her own self-discovery process, man (at least in my case) will discover that he needs to seduce and acquire a VARIETY of these whores to feel fulfilled. Male instincts will awaken and produce potent behavioral changes. More and more, I find myself in situations where I am simply compelled to make a move.

I also discovered that the 'empathy gap' (having more empathy towards females than males) was indeed present in me, and that it was exacerbated by abstinence. I can still sympathize with the misfortunes of men, of course, but mostly on a logical and intellectual level (aversion to injustice), whereas female suffering can produce deep, instantaneous and overwhelming emotional responses. The question I don't want an answer to being : can this wonderful feeling of empathy only be experienced this purely in relation to (fertile) women ? Also, I'm more likely to see other men as competition, obstacles that could stop me from acquiring female validation that need to be crushed. It's an instinct that, as a mgtow, I'm ashamed of and I don't act on it, of course, but it's there and I see it. It's not envy or jealousy, it's not Chad-hating, it's just the desire to violently compete for females.

What I didn't get luckily was the desire to protect and provide for women but that may be because I obtain female validation in a very peculiar way. I flirt, in a non-verbal but intense way, see the gina tingles (I'm not joking) ; tingles make them chase me, and I feel desirable and thus validated. So, that doesn't trigger the 'protect and provide' response you normally get after receiving huge doses of female validation from a single woman (monogamous sex).

Yes, man discovers himself through abstinence, but he might not like what he finds.

In conclusion, Nofap awakes and exacerbates male nature in all its glory, but also in all its misery. I feel more animalistic, more alive and more manly than ever but I also never had this level of responsiveness and vulnerability towards real females. My advice for men interested in trying Nofap would be to try a 30-day challenge and maybe a 90-day « reboot » in case of an unwanted porn addiction, but don't go overboard like I did, I'm now certain it's not healthy and even potentially dangerous. And don't go full semen retention like I did. Masturbate to sensations only when the pressure is building up too much.
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