PointermanKS wrote:Personally, I think it is initiated by twats. They know the less you clean the pipes, the more likely it is for you to slip up and nail some harpy that you shouldn't.
Contrapositive wrote:If you search you will find forums of men who tried NOFAP for several months and completely lost their libidos. I was shocked when I read that and I never see it mentioned on any post promoting NOFAP.
Elaraith wrote:The porn thing I don't get either. I watch a lot of it regularly and I still get off to the exact same things I did when I started watching it ten years ago. I still get turned on just as much from the girls I see outside of the net. Maybe those who look at more and more extreme stuff are predisposed to liking it?
Demosthenes wrote:This is just more 'control of male sexuality'.
Tell men not to do it. Tell women it's ok and encourage them to because it's natural and healthy.
Notice women get upset if they think they aren't enough even if he's only using his hand, but a man is not supposed to complain if she breaks out the dildos and the Hitachi Super-vibe Magic Wand.
If men are convinced that they shouldn't, then that means engaging in sex and the sexual dynamic ultimately puts a woman in much more control. Women want to be a man's only sexual outlet, but women still want to retain all of the options they deny men.
He can't masturbate, but she can. He can't use sexual aids or toys, but she can. He shouldn't flirt, but it's fine if she does. If he's jealous, it's bad and displays controlling behavior somehow. If she's jealous, it's ok, and he obviously did something wrong too.
And all of that has even exploded into - He has to be monogamous, but she can have sex with whomever she pleases and she should be able to have another man's child and he should be OK with that.
Do it, or don't. - Masturbate, Watch Porn. - Do what you want.
Stop ceding control to women and blowing bullshit like NoFap out of proportion. It's an obvious control mechanism.
xtc wrote:They promise immense, but vague, benefits.
All great writers upon health and morals, both ancient and modern, have struggled with this stately subject ; this shows its dignity and importance. Some of these writers have taken one side, some the other.
Homer, in the second book of the Iliad, says with fine enthusiasm, “Give me masturbation or give me death!”
Caesar, in his Commentaries, says, “To the lonely it is company; to the forsaken it is a friend; to the aged and impotent it is a benefactor; they that be penniless are yet rich, in that they still have this majestic diversion.”
Robinson Crusoe says, “I cannot describe what I owe to this gentle art.”
Queen Elizabeth said, “It is the bulwark of virginity.”
Cetewayo, the Zulu hero, remarked that, “A jerk in the hand is worth two in the bush.”
The immortal Franklin has said, “Masturbation is the mother of invention.” He also said, “Masturbation is the best policy.”
Michelangelo and all the other Old Masters — Old Masters, I will remark, is an abbreviation, a contraction — have used similar language. Michelangelo said to Pope Julius II, “Self-negation is noble, self-culture is beneficent, self-possession is manly, but to the truly great and inspiring soul they are poor and tame compared to self-abuse. - Mark Twain
Naadvis wrote:Many friends here would probably feel I am lying
But at this age of 34 , I cant live without doing it at least twice a day . that combined with early morning boner. My wife hates it when the bed shakes a bit every morning when I am onto it . Hell but then I guess most married men do the same
At times when I am alone at home , my score can go upto 5 a day. Heck look like I might need help
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