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Leaving a company before a year?

Postby Falcon » Mon Oct 24, 2016 5:42 pm

Hi guys, I need your advice on something. I've been working for a new bank for roughly 9 months now. The work is nice and the people, including my manager, are good people. However, my beef is with upper management. I'm not 100% they know what they're doing. I was recently hired along with a couple of other people. However, one of the people I was hired with was let go due to financial reasons. One of the reasons why I'm not sure management knows what they're doing is because letting someone go when you hired them less than a year ago makes little to no damn sense. Letting someone go less than a year to me is a red flag and possible indicator of an inability to forecast financial needs for the year. So part of me wants to leave. But I'm also conflicted that I'll be seen as a job hopper if I leave before I've been there a year. Has anyone else been in this situation before? I just want to see what you all would do in this situation. Any and all feedback appreciated.
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Re: Leaving a company before a year?

Postby Demosthenes » Mon Oct 24, 2016 5:57 pm

Falcon wrote:Hi guys, I need your advice on something. I've been working for a new bank for roughly 9 months now. The work is nice and the people, including my manager, are good people. However, my beef is with upper management. I'm not 100% they know what they're doing. I was recently hired along with a couple of other people. However, one of the people I was hired with was let go due to financial reasons. One of the reasons why I'm not sure management knows what they're doing is because letting someone go when you hired them less than a year ago makes little to no damn sense. Letting someone go less than a year to me is a red flag and possible indicator of an inability to forecast financial needs for the year. So part of me wants to leave. But I'm also conflicted that I'll be seen as a job hopper if I leave before I've been there a year. Has anyone else been in this situation before? I just want to see what you all would do in this situation. Any and all feedback appreciated.


Protect yourself. No loyalty. They fire without loyalty. Move along with no apologies. For the next people, keep it matter of fact and blunt if anyone has the nerve to challenge your moves. Some companies wonder why you have not moved on after three years, and that mentality was in place a decade ago easily.

The days of long term employment being a given are over. Companies (in general) have shown their practices for their employees, so they should not expect the same kind of loyalty to company as they once commanded.

Don't let your personal loyalty, honor, and duty prevent you from making the choices that best benefit you over the company you work for. If it suited their purposes, you'd be fired tomorrow with hardly any concern as they escorted you out, or just notified you of when to not come back in, but thanks for your service and here, train this person before you go too...
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Re: Leaving a company before a year?

Postby trajan » Mon Oct 24, 2016 6:22 pm

You're better off lining up a new job and getting out ASAP. Most upwardly mobile professionals these days are "job-hoppers." That stigma disappeared in the 90's.
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Re: Leaving a company before a year?

Postby Slade » Wed Oct 26, 2016 11:32 pm

trajan wrote:You're better off lining up a new job and getting out ASAP. Most upwardly mobile professionals these days are "job-hoppers." That stigma disappeared in the 90's.


Agreed, once you have the new job lined up, pull the rip cord. But be prepared to answer why are you leaving your current job so soon? Don't say it's because your employers are a bunch of idiots. Say something more "positive", like "I found out that they can't offer the kind of career growth I'm looking for. It's a nice place to work, but I want to aim higher."
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Re: Leaving a company before a year?

Postby Pointerman » Fri Oct 28, 2016 11:40 am

Ditch it as soon as you can. The more you wait around, the more likely you are to say something that someone will take offense to and HR will be in your ass about something.

Most interviews will ask about the short amount of time but you can always explain why. Chances are they will accept what ever you come up with. If you got the interview, they are interested, simple as that.
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Re: Leaving a company before a year?

Postby Delmore Schwartz » Fri Oct 28, 2016 11:52 am

I've had this previously with an American company based in Westport, CT.

When asked at a subsequent interview why I left after a short period I simply said that "I found their internal business practices objectionable, but would not go into details because of the confidentiality clause within my contract".

That sets the right ethical and moral tone while simultaneously being completely unproveable.

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trajan wrote:You're better off lining up a new job and getting out ASAP. Most upwardly mobile professionals these days are "job-hoppers." That stigma disappeared in the 90's.


Agreed, once you have the new job lined up, pull the rip cord. But be prepared to answer why are you leaving your current job so soon? Don't say it's because your employers are a bunch of idiots. Say something more "positive", like "I found out that they can't offer the kind of career growth I'm looking for. It's a nice place to work, but I want to aim higher."


When in this sort of circumstance previously I've said that "I'm leaving for personal reasons unrelated to my current role." and my letter of resignation states exactly that and nothing more. I actually left because the guy I was working for was an amoral cunt who would fuck anyone over to make an easy buck.

This was the same guy who fired someone for some bullshit so that he could claim their commission as his.
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Re: Leaving a company before a year?

Postby Silvestroyer » Sat Oct 29, 2016 2:12 am

I am more or less in the same situation, so I searched the Internet for an answer and this is what I found:

You Should Plan On Switching Jobs Every Three Years For The Rest Of Your Life

https://www.fastcompany.com/3055035/the-future-of-work/you-should-plan-on-switching-jobs-every-three-years-for-the-rest-of-your-

Basically, if you don’t change jobs every three years, you don’t develop the skills of getting a job quickly, so then you don’t have any career stability.
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Re: Leaving a company before a year?

Postby Slade » Tue Dec 13, 2016 12:01 am

Silvestroyer wrote:I am more or less in the same situation, so I searched the Internet for an answer and this is what I found:

You Should Plan On Switching Jobs Every Three Years For The Rest Of Your Life

https://www.fastcompany.com/3055035/the-future-of-work/you-should-plan-on-switching-jobs-every-three-years-for-the-rest-of-your-

Basically, if you don’t change jobs every three years, you don’t develop the skills of getting a job quickly, so then you don’t have any career stability.


While this is fundamentally true, job hopping becomes harder as you get older; because age discrimination is quite real. While some 30 year old hiring managers are objective I have found that most are turned off by older candidates. There is a reason why so many middle aged people are filing for disability. They can't get a job.
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Re: Leaving a company before a year?

Postby Calloway » Tue Dec 13, 2016 12:25 am

Silvestroyer wrote:You Should Plan On Switching Jobs Every Three Years For The Rest Of Your Life


When I was younger, I would job hop frequently, as I think most 20-year-olds do. I settled down in a job I liked when I was around 29 and stayed there quite a few years. I didn't plan on finding a job I could tolerate. I just found myself liking the work, liking the people, and found a place where I could expand my skillset. I remember at one point thinking, I should probably leave this company at some point, but right now I don't want to.

That problem was solved for me when upper management pulled some shady deals and the company went under.

Even when you're at a place you like, always keep your eyes open.
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Re: Leaving a company before a year?

Postby Phathack » Tue Dec 13, 2016 12:30 am

Slade wrote:
Silvestroyer wrote:I am more or less in the same situation, so I searched the Internet for an answer and this is what I found:

You Should Plan On Switching Jobs Every Three Years For The Rest Of Your Life

https://www.fastcompany.com/3055035/the-future-of-work/you-should-plan-on-switching-jobs-every-three-years-for-the-rest-of-your-

Basically, if you don’t change jobs every three years, you don’t develop the skills of getting a job quickly, so then you don’t have any career stability.


While this is fundamentally true, job hopping becomes harder as you get older; because age discrimination is quite real. While some 30 year old hiring managers are objective I have found that most are turned off by older candidates. There is a reason why so many middle aged people are filing for disability. They can't get a job.


I can attest to that. I worked for a company 17 years and was let go in a round of layoffs.
I should of switched jobs inside the company instead of staying in one spot too long. Then the direction of the company had changed and I was no longer an asset and there were not willing to see if a 53 year old man with 4 patents could contribute to some area outside of my specialty.
Since them everyone says I'm overqualified or would get bored working for them. That may be true but I need a paycheck before I go broke.
I don't even talk about the advanced work I did when I was in R&D years ago, just my basic computer skills. I'm hoping to land a job that will pay the bills, aka 1/4th what I was making, while I try and establish my own business, what ever that will be. I've been looking for over a year now.

On top of that I have advanced arthritis and have trouble walking but cant qualify for disability.


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